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Hello all,Forgotten how you check if car in the trade, since lost a v5.

Could you remind me please?

Thanks Roy.

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5 minutes ago, EPV said:

Ring the DVLA? 

I think there's some way when you check vehicle status on line, that tell you.

Forgotten now.

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1 minute ago, friar said:

I think there's some way when you check vehicle status on line, that tell you.

Forgotten now.

I can’t see how, if you have lost the v5 (and ultimately doc ref nr) i’m not sure how you could ever get that online but i’m happy to find out if someone knows! 

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If you want to check if a car is in trade then you go to see it's tax status. If at the bottom of the screen it says "you may be able to tax this car at a post office" it's in trade and not taxed. 

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You Need V5 ref number to check anything I would think .

Best ring DVLA and ask .

They can work off reg number 

Edited by David Horgan

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go to DVLA website and if it's with trade it will say you may be able to tax this car at the Post Office

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10 minutes ago, Tom said:

If you want to check if a car is in trade then you go to see it's tax status. If at the bottom of the screen it says "you may be able to tax this car at a post office" it's in trade and not taxed. 

I didn't know this but just tried this with one car that I know is in trade and my own taxed daily driver and it is indeed correct! Thank you for that. 

https://www.gov.uk/check-vehicle-tax

The text that comes up for the car IN TRADE right at the bottom of the page is: 

You may be able to tax this vehicle at a Post Office Branch that deals with vehicle tax without the V5C registration certificate.

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By the way, what is the significance of knowing that it's IN TRADE? 

Since DVLA closed their local offices I've never come across a car that can not be taxed at a post office with a V62 and £25 fee. 

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1 hour ago, Nick M.K. said:

I didn't know this but just tried this with one car that I know is in trade and my own taxed daily driver and it is indeed correct! Thank you for that. 

https://www.gov.uk/check-vehicle-tax

The text that comes up for the car IN TRADE right at the bottom of the page is: 

You may be able to tax this vehicle at a Post Office Branch that deals with vehicle tax without the V5C registration certificate.

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32 minutes ago, Nick M.K. said:

By the way, what is the significance of knowing that it's IN TRADE? 

Since DVLA closed their local offices I've never come across a car that can not be taxed at a post office with a V62 and £25 fee. 

Yeah, +1 not really much point ????????????????

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40 minutes ago, Dave2302 said:

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Yeah, +1 not really much point ????????????????

1 hour ago, Nick M.K. said:

By the way, what is the significance of knowing that it's IN TRADE? 

Since DVLA closed their local offices I've never come across a car that can not be taxed at a post office with a V62 and £25 fee. 

If the V5 has been lost and the car is not in trade, that means that there is still a keeper registered at DVLA. V62 at a post office won't tax the car or request a new V5. Obviously if you know who the keeper is they can request a new V5 from DVLA. If you don't know the keeper then it's a problem.

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1 hour ago, MOTORS said:

If the V5 has been lost and the car is not in trade, that means that there is still a keeper registered at DVLA. V62 at a post office won't tax the car or request a new V5

Errr, no. 

A V62 + £25 at a post office should tax a car and request a new V5 even if not in trade. The only difference I know of (I could of course be wrong) is that if not in trade the DVLA sends out a letter to the last registered keeper to check that they have indeed sold the car and it makes the process longer. A week or two when in trade, around 4-6 weeks when not. Which sounds like a big deal but if you have sold the car and the new keeper knows that it's taxed they usually won't care how long they wait for a new V5. 

I never submit new keeper details in the first 3 weeks following a sale and no one ever calls me to check why the V5 is not there yet. 

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Found the v5,but thanks for help with 'in the trade ' won't forget this time.

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On 06/10/2018 at 7:10 PM, Nick M.K. said:

Errr, no. 

A V62 + £25 at a post office should tax a car and request a new V5 even if not in trade. The only difference I know of (I could of course be wrong) is that if not in trade the DVLA sends out a letter to the last registered keeper to check that they have indeed sold the car and it makes the process longer. A week or two when in trade, around 4-6 weeks when not. Which sounds like a big deal but if you have sold the car and the new keeper knows that it's taxed they usually won't care how long they wait for a new V5. 

I never submit new keeper details in the first 3 weeks following a sale and no one ever calls me to check why the V5 is not there yet. 

Sorry, what I meant was you can’t request a replacement V5 with a V62 to allow you to tax the car. If the car is not in trade you can’t tax it at a post office.  I’ve had this twice, once about 7 years ago and once last year. Spoke to DVLA both times and they confirmed while there is a keeper registered on the car you can’t tax it. If you fill in a V62 for a new keeper (buyer) they have to take the car untaxed (not possible) but they will receive a new V5 in their name once DVLA has written to the previous keeper to confirm they are no longer the keeper.

What I did in both instances was fill out a V62 in my name to get a new V5 and then sell the car as normal. Now when I see a car advertised with no V5 I ring DVLA to confirm if in trade or not. 

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3 minutes ago, MOTORS said:

Sorry, what I meant was you can’t request a replacement V5 with a V62 to allow you to tax the car. If the car is not in trade you can’t tax it at a post office.  I’ve had this twice, once about 7 years ago and once last year. Spoke to DVLA both times and they confirmed while there is a keeper registered on the car you can’t tax it. If you fill in a V62 for a new keeper (buyer) they have to take the car untaxed (not possible) but they will receive a new V5 in their name once DVLA has written to the previous keeper to confirm they are no longer the keeper.

What I did in both instances was fill out a V62 in my name to get a new V5 and then sell the car as normal. Now when I see a car advertised with no V5 I ring DVLA to confirm if in trade or not. 

This.

With no docs if the car is not 'in trade' then you ain't taxing it for weeks.

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But, just to muddy the waters we are talking DVLA, the most inept, imcompetant and useless agency I have ever dealt with, it's never black and white there. For instance:

1/ Car to be taken in p/x with no V5, was 100% lost. We had to deliver the new car and collect the p/x, but we were doing a cambelt on the new car for him so would take a few days to actual delivery. We had the customers permission to apply for a new V5, a very reasonable guy.

So, we sent off for a new one and it takes a mere 4 days to get a new one in my hand, yes 4 days from post to post, Monday to Thursday! Now, even if hand delivered and hand collected, something DVLA aren't in the habit of doing, that should of taken at least 14 days. We actually had a V5 in our name for a vehicle we didn't even have/own/responsable for at that point:wacko:. He never got the 'someone has applied for a V5' letter. Yet we get calls every bloody week from customers telling me ,it's my fault that their V5 still hasn't arrived after 6 weeks....

2/ A car bought from a main agent we deal with. Car in trade, properly done with hardcopy screen print papertrail (paperless yeah right:D). We sell the car and we try and tax the car online for the new owner, no dice, only goes so far an then just freezes but says we maybe able to tax at a Post Office....strange? So we go to the PO and computer says no, both the post office clerk and ourselves ring DVLA whom tell us there is no problem that they can see, so we must be a BOC's.

Eventually we talk with someone who knows what they doing (of sorts) and they try and tax it at their end (dry run so to speak) and the computer says no, tells us he can see no reason whatsoever why this should be but, with no suggestions of how to progess, he didn't wish to 'prejudice DVLA', whatever that means:blink:.

We had to apply and pay for a new V5 and, luckily the customer waited, but what a f**king farce.

DVLA, the only Goverment agency who couldn't meet their targets twice so had them extended instead, twice. I have a family member's daughter who works at Swansea, she hates it and it's not a happy place to work, but Swansea isn't awash with jobs. She tells me it's like moving chairs on the Titanic and it's firefighting everyday, even she is amazed that it works as well it does.

DVLA....can't even produce an owners title for a car, just a who pays the parking ticket...

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13 minutes ago, tradex said:

DVLA, the most inept, imcompetant and useless agency I have ever dealt with, it's never black and white there. For instance:

Not to be argumentative but just to offer some balance.

I may have been lucky but as yet, I have no single complaint with DVLA - they have always been helpful and prompt and the Online system works for 90+% of everything I need to do day to day.

I do not work for the DVLA, never have, nor do I know anyone who does, it is just my experience so far.

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52 minutes ago, sparky said:

With no docs if the car is not 'in trade' then you ain't taxing it for weeks.

But you CAN apply for a new V5 surely??? You fill in the V62, you pay the £25 and eventually a book will arrive. 

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You know what they say

"Don't talk it up";)

 

I'm maybe more unlucky than most, I never win sweeps, the lottery, or even the village raffle

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The V62 only works if you have the previous keepers postcode if the car isn't in trade.  We have had this recently a couple of times and where the Postie would do it on a v62 it was only ever if it was in trade, if you don't have the previous keepers postcode written on the bottom of the V62, they refuse to tax it and you have to apply for the v5 in your name.  It's a ridiculous system imo... 

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8 minutes ago, tradex said:

I never win ......., the lottery

I wouldn't be here if I did :lol:

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14 minutes ago, Nick M.K. said:

But you CAN apply for a new V5 surely??? You fill in the V62, you pay the £25 and eventually a book will arrive. 

yes but you can't tax it

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